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  1. [verwijderd] 22 januari 2009 20:25
    De vertragingen op de oude thread nummer 18 zijn voor mij aanleiding een nieuwe draad te starten.

    Meteen maar met een nieuwe kop waarin de onderwerpen, die vanaf begin 2008 op
    Goud / Zilver / Platina / Palladium
    ter sprake kwamen, beter tot zijn recht komen.
    Echter wel een onverkorte voortzetting van thread 1 t/m 18

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    --- Met dank aan pensionado1 ---
    quote:

    pensionado1 - 22 jan 09, 20:00 schreef:

    Goud / Zilver / Platina / Palladium - Deel 18

    Ik stel voor dat één van de vaste posters een nieuwe draad opent, met bijvoorbeeld de naam goud & commodities, omdat het kennelijk zo is dat de ballast van alle oude gegevens de draad langzaam maakt. Herhaalde oproepen aan IEX om er wat aan te doen helpen niet. Ze doen maar wat daar..............

    bye Pensionado.
  2. [verwijderd] 22 januari 2009 20:41
    Ik heb mijn oude hobby €/$ ook weer opgevat. Toen mijn TL 1.28 in de knel leek te komen, heb ik voor hetzelfde bedrag TL 1.247 gekocht met de bedoeling die 1.28 te verkopen. Dat is er nog even niet van gekomen, en dus profiteer ik dubbel.
    OF, de klap komt dubbel hard aan, dat zien we morgen.
  3. [verwijderd] 22 januari 2009 20:48
    Deze ook maar hier posten, is van vandaag:

    A few important observations: JS

    1. The Euro Zone financial and general business system has been bailed out at the rate of 6% of their 2007 GDP (2007 last reported).

    2. The US financial and general business system has been bailed out at a rate of 5% of 2007 GDP (2007 last reported).

    3. The US dollar has appreciated from the low of .72 to the high of .89 on the USDX.

    4. That represents a 26.3% appreciation for the dollar versus the euro.

    5. The difference between 5% and 6% can be argued as a 20% increase in percentage of GDP (not absolute bailout funds) higher in the Euro Zone.

    6. Rate of interest returns in the Euro Zone are on average more than 100% higher than the US but that is not a factor because it does not serve the interest of the dollar longs. This keeps the media quiet.

    Conclusion:

    Algorithms and technical short term dollar flows are the very short term of the dollar rally.
  4. [verwijderd] 22 januari 2009 20:49
    quote:

    mineset schreef:

    Ik zag plots jouw draad voorbij komen, pas nadat ik deze al geopend had. Heb IEX tekstje eronder gezet O.K. ?

    Heb zelf nog TL 769 on hold en natuurlijk het nodige euro-gold&silver bij HBU, maar dat is voor de LT.

    gr.mineset
    No worries mate. Ik heb mijn afsluitcommentaar al onder die andere draad gezet.
    Ik had met opzet al die links er niet boven gezet om daardoor wellicht de snelheid te bevorderen.

    En goudzoekers zijn uit zichzelf toch link?
  5. [verwijderd] 22 januari 2009 21:09
    Comment Norcini on todays (Gold&Bond&Oil) tradings:

    I should point out that the Gold/Bond ratio, a measure of investor’s preference for a safe haven choice, has been decidedly in favor of gold over the last couple of weeks.
    I will attempt to get an updated chart up later today for your reference.-> on
    www.jsmineset.com/
    No doubt serious-minded investors are looking at the Treasury International Capital Flows data as well as the coming US government spending orgy alongside of these Euro zone debt downgrades and are saying to themselves, “the Hell with paper”.

    Meanwhile, Russia appears to be burning through its share of reserves with the speed of a wildfire as they attempt to put a floor beneath the disappearing ruble.
    I will get a Gold in ruble terms chart up today later on – it too is amazing.-> on
    www.jsmineset.com/
    This brings me to another point – I see one way only for those nations which are cranking up the printing presses to warp speed to avoid complete and utter insolvency – they will have to devalue their currencies against gold and inflate the debt away.
    I am not a statistician or a mathematician, but I cannot wrap my mind around the amount of debt being created by so many nations and envision any other scenario in which any of it has a snowball’s chance in hell of ever getting repaid.
    Either that or the current monetary system collapses and a new Bretton Woods type accord replaces it.
    When we talk about a soaring gold price we are in effect talking about the devaluation of paper currencies – it is one and the same thing for all practical purposes.

    All of this is serving to put a strong floor of support beneath the gold market which’s resiliency is beginning to resemble that of a cork’s.
    It keeps bobbing up to the surface after getting pushed down by bullion bank selling at the Comex.

    The wedge formation which is revealed on the daily gold chart that begins with the July 2008 high and the mid-October 2008 low appears to be attempting to resolve itself in favor of the upside with the top of that line coming in near the $880 region. That level is taking on more and more significance as a technical barrier and should gold be able to punch through the selling that the bullion banks are throwing into its path here near the $860 level, they will be pushed back to that line as a defense.
    If they can be pushed off of that hill, gold will have broken out in US Dollar terms into a trending move.
    Expect a battle at that level therefore by the gold shorters.
    Momentum indicators on the daily gold chart are all positive with the price above all of the major moving averages.
    The only bit of a fly in the ointment is that the 10 day moving average remains below the 20 day but it has turned higher which is a plus.
    The last reaction in gold a few trading sessions ago took it down into the confluence of the 50 day and 100 day moving average from which is sharply bounced, a very strong technical signal.

    Gold deliveries in the expiring January contract reached 161,700 ounces with today’s assignments while registered warehouse stocks have actually shown a decline below the 2.8 million ounce mark (Someone needs to the call the Comex guys and have them reign in that fellow who reported the drawdown – what was he possibly thinking?).

    After bouncing yesterday, crude oil bounced back down today.
    To a certain extent, its welfare is tied to that of the equity markets where as a general rule, lower stock prices have been sucking it lower while higher prices have been encouraging bottom pickers.
    Anytime we see weakness in crude oil, many of the other commodity markets do tend to soften as this plays into the deflationist camp’s views which still have a wide following out there.
    For the sake of clarity, I do not agree with the view of those in that camp who predict gold getting pulled lower as a result of deflation.
    My reason is that their view fails to see gold as a currency and not a commodity.
    That is the reason I continue to send charts up from time to time detailing the price of gold measured in other currencies besides the US Dollar.
    The deflationists are narrow-minded in their view of gold considering it only in US Dollar terms. How one can say that the price of gold is going to weaken because of a deflationary environment while at the exact same time the yellow metal is soaring into new all time high in terms of the British Pound, the Ruble, the Euro, the Australian Dollar, the Canadian Dollar and so on? It seems to me many of the proponents of this view have some serious “splaining” to do. Hint – gold is a currency guys – stop looking at it like it was a commodity.

    Lastly – trading volume and open interest in the February 2009 contract will be waning as April will take on most active month status.
  6. [verwijderd] 22 januari 2009 21:18
    quote:

    fes schreef:

    Je weet wat ik al een tijdje roep....hieronder zie je hoe Dan Norcini erover denkt (uit zijn bovenstaand bericht van vandaag getrokken).

    For the sake of clarity, I do not agree with the view of those in that camp who predict gold getting pulled lower as a result of deflation.
    My reason is that their view fails to see gold as a currency and not a commodity.
    That is the reason I continue to send charts up from time to time detailing the price of gold measured in other currencies besides the US Dollar.
    The deflationists are narrow-minded in their view of gold considering it only in US Dollar terms. How one can say that the price of gold is going to weaken because of a deflationary environment while at the exact same time the yellow metal is soaring into new all time high in terms of the British Pound, the Ruble, the Euro, the Australian Dollar, the Canadian Dollar and so on? It seems to me many of the proponents of this view have some serious “splaining” to do. Hint – gold is a currency guys – stop looking at it like it was a commodity.
  7. [verwijderd] 22 januari 2009 21:36
    Olievoorraden VS stijgen veel sterker dan verwacht

    AMSTERDAM (Dow Jones)--De voorraden ruwe olie in de Verenigde Staten zijn de afgelopen week veel sterker dan verwacht gestegen. De benzinevoorraden lieten eveneens een fors groter dan verwachte toename zien. Dat blijkt donderdag uit cijfers van het Amerikaanse ministerie van Energie.

    De voorraden ruwe olie namen in de week die eindigde op 16 januari toe met 6,1 miljoen vaten tot 332,663 miljoen vaten. Analisten gepolst door Dow Jones Newswires gingen uit van een toename met 1,0 miljoen vaten.

    De benzinevoorraden stegen met 6,5 miljoen vaten tot 219,980 miljoen vaten. Analisten rekenden hier op een stijging met 1,6 miljoen vaten.

    De voorraden stookolie en diesel namen afgelopen week toe met 0,8 miljoen vaten tot 144,957 miljoen vaten. Analisten gingen uit van een afname van 0,6 miljoen vaten.

    Door Ben Zwirs; Dow Jones Nieuwsdienst; +31-20-5715201; ben.zwirs@dowjones.com
  8. [verwijderd] 22 januari 2009 21:42
    quote:

    mineset schreef:

    TA-Gold (fut-feb-2009) Norcini vandaag:
    www.jsmineset.com/wp-content/uploads/...

    pdf kun je vergroten

    gr.mineset
    Ik kan nergens een grafiek vinden die enige correlatie heeft met de goud grafiek van de afgelopen vijf jaar.
    Het goedje was en is zo door elkaar geschud, waarschijnlijk ook gemanipuleerd, dat het nergens mee te vergelijken is en was.
    Een ijkpunt (goud) t.o.v. andere valuta's zou wel wenselijk zijn. Iedereen kan dan zien hoe het met zijn/haar munt gesteld is.
    Denk wel dat de smerige politiek het niet zal willen.
    gr.fes

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