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  1. forum rang 10 voda 6 december 2018 20:36
    Outokumpu Prodec machining tests gave three times longer tool life

    Outokumpu Prodec showed its superior capabilities in a recent tool-life test, which was also demonstrated to customers on a video in the Machining Day event in October. See the test video and video from the event below. To demonstrate the capabilities of Prodec 316L/4404, a tool life-time test was done at a machine shop CNC Ayden in South Germany. Tests started with a standard stainless steel bar which was compared against Prodec 316L/4404. The stainless steel bar is machined in the test with high speed 280 m/minute until the insert is worn out.

    The results showed evidence of Prodec giving 350% longer tool life-time to the inserts. Three select customers were invited to attend the testing on-site. The test was also recorded on video and showed on the following day at the IMS Machining Day event.

    Outokumpu Long Products and IMS Germany held a joint Machining Day in October to showcase Prodec superior machinable bars.

    The event collected about 45 machine shop owners, technical directors and machine users interested in machining from close surroundings of Trossingen, where the event took place. Outokumpu presented the Prodec offering and its benefits from technical point of view as well as showcased the Prodec machining test to the audience.

    Source : Strategic Research Institute
  2. forum rang 10 voda 23 januari 2019 20:17
    AOD converter modernized by Primetals Technologies at Outokumpu

    In December 2018, the no. 1 AOD converter modernized by Primetals Technologies was started up at the Tornio works of Outokumpu Stainless Oy, a Finnish stainless-steel producer. The project involved fitting the converter with a new tilting drive, trunnion ring and other associated equipment, including the electrical installations and automation. The Vaicon Drive Damper system developed by Primetals Technologies was also installed on the tilting drive. It reduces the vibrations produced by the blowing processes and thus the mechanical loads acting on the entire system from the converter down to the foundations. The patented system reduces wear and maintenance costs while also lengthening the service life of the plant. It can be installed in new plants or retrofitted on existing converters.

    Outokumpu is one of the world's leading producers of stainless steels. The company employs around 10,000 people in over 30 countries, and has its headquarters in Helsinki, Finland. The works in Tornio, Lapland, is an integrated production complex with a cold rolling capacity of 1.2 million metric tons per annum. The chromite ore used in the works comes from a mining operation in nearby Kemi, which is also run by Outokumpu.

    Primetals Technologies was responsible for the planning, manufacturing and supply of the new converter equipment. This covered the trunnion ring, tilting drive, including the damping system, the rotary joint and the pipework. The scope of supply also included the level 1 software and hardware for the tilting drive and damping system. The major components are a safety PLC, remote IOs, frequency converter, local control pulpits, engineering station and a process data recording system. The process images required for visualization are integrated into the existing control system. Primetals Technologies also handled supervision of the installation, commissioning and start-up of the AOD converter.

    The AOD (argon-oxygen-decarburization) refining process is used to produce stainless and high-alloyed steels. Large quantities of oxygen, argon and nitrogen are injected laterally to mix the bath thoroughly and minimize the unwanted slagging of alloying elements. This process-related lateral injection during the refining process sets the bath and the several hundred metric tons of the AOD converter in vibration. This causes dynamic stresses, which reduce the service life of the mechanical components of the plant, and increase the amount of maintenance required, especially on account of premature wear on the bearings and gearing of the tilting drive.

    The Vaicon Drive Damper developed and patented by Primetals Technologies reduces the induced vibrations and the associated mechanical stress on the converter mechanism by more than 50 percent. The damping system consists of two hydraulic dampers developed jointly with Hainzl, an Austrian company, as well as measuring systems, and evaluation and control software. The dampers are installed parallel to the torque support of the converter tilt drive, and are driven independently of it. This design ensures high availability and also makes it easy to retrofit in existing plants. Each damper has a closed hydraulic circuit, which makes an additional, external hydraulic system unnecessary. The damping effect is achieved by means of an electrohydraulic proportional throttle valve, and is therefore continuously adjustable. The thermal energy generated by the damping is dissipated by an integrated water cooling system.

    The dampers are equipped with a position measuring system as well as pressure and temperature sensors. All process data – such as vibration displacement, temperature, pressure and damping force – is recorded and evaluated by software developed by Primetals Technologies. This facilitates a fast, effective response to the momentary vibration state of the converter.

    Source : Strategic Research Institute
  3. [verwijderd] 7 februari 2019 11:16

    Outokumpu Q4 Adjusted EBITDA EUR 89 Mln, Meets Expectations

    Feb 7 (Reuters) - Outokumpu Oyj ::OUTOKUMPU OYJ Q4 ADJUSTED. EBITDA EUR 89 MILLION (REUTERS POLL EUR 89.2 MILLION).
    BOARD OF DIRECTORS PROPOSES A DIVIDEND OF EUR 0.15 PER SHARE FOR 2018.

    UNFORESEEN TRADE DISRUPTION CAUSED BY US STEEL TARIFFS LED TO A SURGE OF LOW-COST IMPORTS INTO EUROPE.
    Q4 STAINLESS STEEL DELIVERIES WERE 534,000 TONNES (561,000 TONNES).
    FULL-YEAR ADJUSTED EBITDA REFLECTING UNSTABLE MARKETS AND SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER INPUT COSTS.IN EUROPE, HIGHER COSTS TOGETHER WITH MISALIGNMENT BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND SUPPLY CHAIN PROCESSES LED TO DISAPPOINTING FINANCIAL RESULTS..

    OUTOKUMPU EXPECTS ITS FIRST-QUARTER ADJUSTED EBITDA TO BE LOWER THAN IN Q4 OF 2018 (Q4/18: EUR 89 MILLION).
    Q4 SALES EUR 1.59 BILLION (REUTERS POLL EUR 1.58 BILLION).

    INVESTING IN FERRITICS CAPABILITIES IN CALVERT MILL TO EXPAND PRODUCT OFFERING.STRENGTHENING OF BALANCE SHEET AND REDUCING NET DEBT ARE KEY PRIORITIES FOR 2019..SAYS STAINLESS STEEL MARKET IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN CHALLENGING IN Q1 DUE TO HIGH DISTRIBUTOR INVENTORY LEVELS..STAINLESS STEEL MARKET IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN CHALLENGING IN Q1 DUE TO HIGH DISTRIBUTOR INVENTORY LEVELS..IN Q1 OUTOKUMPU EXPECTS ITS STAINLESS STEEL DELIVERIES TO BE HIGHER THAN IN Q4 OF 2018..EXPECTS ITS STAINLESS STEEL DELIVERIES TO BE HIGHER THAN IN Q4 OF 2018..FERROCHROME RESULT WILL BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY LOWER FERROCHROME BENCHMARK PRICE..IN AMERICAS, FIRST-QUARTER FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE IS EXPECTED TO REMAIN WEAK..


    Resultaat beinvvloedt door geopolitiek geneuzel.

    Hoge Transport prijzen - Ja, dan zouden wij eerst de kartelvorming van MSC, Maersk bespreekbaar moeten maken.
    Maar wie durft ?????

    Dump prijzen vanwege handelsoorlog.
    Maar wie durft ???

    Omzet stabiel ondanks de oorlog.
    Winst zal opveren zodra de oorlog beslecht is, maar wie durft om Amerika aan te pakken.

  4. forum rang 10 voda 7 februari 2019 16:52
    Outokumpu: roestvrijstaalmarkt nog uitdagend

    Gepubliceerd op 7 feb 2019 om 09:37 | Views: 1.234

    Aperam 16:31
    27,66 -0,84 (-2,95%)

    HELSINKI (AFN) - Het Finse Outokumpu denkt dat de markt voor roestvrij staal in het eerste kwartaal uitdagend zal blijven, vanwege de grote voorraden bij distributeurs. Dat schrijft de branchegenoot van het in Amsterdam genoteerde Aperam in zijn cijferpublicatie.

    Het bedrijf denkt dat het aangepaste bedrijfsresultaat (ebitda) in de eerste periode van dit jaar lager zal uitvallen dan het resultaat van 89 miljoen euro in het vierde kwartaal. In 2018 zag het bedrijf de onderliggende ebitda dalen naar 485 miljoen euro, van 631 miljoen euro in 2017. Volgens Outokumpu stonden in Europa de prijzen sterk onder druk door de hoge import van goedkoop roestvrij staal, terwijl de transport- en grondstofprijzen toenamen. Het bedrijf spreekt van een ,,buitengewoon'' jaar voor de Europese roestvrijstaalsector.

    De omzet ging vorig jaar naar bijna 6,9 miljard euro, van bijna 6,4 miljard euro in 2017. Daarbij werd onder meer geprofiteerd van hogere prijzen in Noord- en Zuid-Amerika en de verkoop van duurdere producten. De verschepingen bleven vrijwel stabiel op meer dan 2,4 miljoen ton.
  5. [verwijderd] 8 februari 2019 15:48

    In 2 dagen tijd, meer dan 20% gekelderd.

    Aandeel wordt aanzienlijk gebashed als je in 2 dagen tijd aandeel dumpt naar 3,16.
    Dagen ervoor hebben beleggers op 4,05 nog gekocht.

    Onvoorstelbaar.
    Aandelen moeten jaren overdoen om 20% stijging te krijgen en dan krijgt je het voor je kiezen dat ze ook nog te duur zijn.
    Aandelen mogen blijkaar met 10% stijgen (doe maar gewoon).
    En aandelen mogen met 50 % in waarde.

    Nu op 3,16 en dan hoor je niks... tever doorgezakt ???...

    Nee, er kan nog meer vanaf.

    Handel is casino tegenwoordig.

    Flink bashen.... dan dumpen de mensen wel massaal.

  6. forum rang 10 voda 5 april 2019 15:28
    Harsco to poved logistics services to Outokumpu

    Harsco Corporation announced that its Metals & Minerals division has signed a seven-year contract to provide onsite logistics services at Outokumpu’s stainless-steel site in Tornio, Finland. Under the terms of the $28 million agreement, Harsco will provide scrap transport using a fleet of fuel-efficient and technologically-advanced trucks. The Tornio site is one of Outokumpu’s four integrated plants, and specializes in producing high-performing stainless-steel grades.

    The signing of this agreement further expands Harsco’s relationship with Outokumpu. It also marks Harsco’s first service agreement at a Finnish site, further extending the Company’s reach in Europe.

    Source : Strategic Research Institute
  7. 0,0 3 mei 2019 09:56
    Outokumpu appoints Olli-Matti Saksi as interim Head of business area Americas
    Stock exchange release
    May 1, 2019 at 6.00 pm EEST

    Outokumpu appoints Olli-Matti Saksi as interim Head of business area Americas

    Olli-Matti Saksi, Outokumpu’s Chief Commercial Officer, has been appointed interim Head of business area Americas with immediate effect. Olli-Matti has been in charge of the Americas’ sales and supply chain organizations since January 2019.

    Michael S. Williams, who has been leading business area Americas since 2015, has decided to pursue other opportunities outside Outokumpu.

    Says CEO Roeland Baan: “I want to thank Mike Williams for his invaluable contribution and commitment in developing our operations in the Americas and strengthening our position in this highly competitive market. I wish him all the best for the future”.

    The recruitment process for the new President for business area Americas is ongoing.


    Americas gaat ein-de-lijk aangepakt worden, ben benieuwd of het verschil gaat maken. Voor Q1 verwacht ook nog zeer matige resultaten, daarna zou het herstel moeten komen.
  8. [verwijderd] 3 mei 2019 15:07

    Met 3,19 op de teller kun je later zo een eurootje pakken.

    Wij gaan het voor 2e keer weer meemaken.
    Toen ze in de problemen zaten stonden ze onder de 3 euro in 2016.
    Toen hebben we een ritje naar 9,50 euro gezien.

    Vervolgens hebben ze de koers weer gedumpt door handelsoorlog, angst zaaien.. weer terug naar 3,19..

    Staalproductie nam weer toe en zal voor RVS ook geen uitzondering zijn.
    Momenteel worden ze de kop ingedrukt om ze goedkoop in te slaan, omdat LT zal de koers tuurlijk opveren naar 10 euro.

    Out1V is nummer 2 in Amerika en stainless steel is gewoon een product die blijft.

    Maar de big boys houden Aperam, Outokumpu,Mittal flink in de greep en zullen geen uitbraak tolereren, maar pas na 7 mei dan komen de cijfers uit.

    Dan hebben de big boys genoeg ingeslagen op 3,20.

  9. [verwijderd] 7 mei 2019 08:12


    May 7, 2019 at 9.00 am EEST

    Outokumpu first quarter interim statement – Solid cash generation in spite of challenging quarter, Group adjusted EBITDA at EUR 54 million

    Highlights in the first quarter of 2019

    Stainless steel deliveries were 621,000 tonnes (644,000 tonnes).Adjusted EBITDA was EUR 54 million (EUR 133 million).EBITDA was EUR 40 million (EUR 140 million).Operating cash flow was EUR 39 million (EUR 39 million).Net debt increased to EUR 1,370 million (Dec 31, 2018: EUR 1,241 million).Gearing was 51.6% (Dec 31, 2018: 45.1%).Return on capital employed (ROCE) was 4.3% (Dec 31, 2018: 7.0%).

    Q1 2019 compared to Q1 2018

    Outokumpu’s sales increased to EUR 1,715 million (EUR 1,671 million). The first-quarter adjusted EBITDA of EUR 54 million was significantly lower than EUR 133 million in the first quarter of 2018 driven particularly by increased graphite electrode and other input costs. Deliveries decreased due to high distributor inventories and softer demand in the Americas and Long Products. Realized base prices decreased as a result of a challenging market in Europe, partly offset by improved pricing and product mix in the Americas. Ferrochrome profitability was negatively impacted by lower contract price and higher costs. The adjusted EBITDA includes a loss of EUR 12 million from currency derivatives. Raw material-related inventory and metal derivative losses were EUR 13 million compared to losses of EUR 5 million in the first quarter of 2018. Other operations and intra-group items’ adjusted EBITDA amounted to EUR 1 million (EUR 10 million). Other operations and intra-group items’ result includes a EUR -14 million adjustment related to a preliminary settlement between Outokumpu and Thyssenkrupp regarding a tax consolidation claim in Italy, as well as other earlier claims from the merger between Outokumpu and Inoxum

  10. [verwijderd] 7 mei 2019 08:14

    2e kwartaal wordt meer dan 54 mio winst.

    Gestaag komt het goed.

    Outlook for Q2 2019

    In the second quarter, there are no significant changes expected in the stainless steel markets. As a result, Outokumpu expects its stainless steel deliveries to remain at a similar level to the first quarter of 2019.

    The Ferrochrome result will be positively impacted by the higher ferrochrome benchmark price, partly offset by planned maintenance work in the Tornio ferrochrome operations.

    Outokumpu expects its second-quarter adjusted EBITDA to be higher than in the first quarter of 2019 (Q1/19: EUR 54 million

  11. forum rang 10 voda 8 mei 2019 15:22
    Outokumpu announces Q1 results

    President & CEO Roeland Baan said “Outokumpu’s first quarter performance was in line with our expectations. Our adjusted EBITDA amounted to EUR 54 million reflecting the challenging market situation. Seasonally demand in Europe was stronger than in the previous quarter but not to the extent we would usually experience. In spite of this, we increased our market share. Realized base prices came down slightly compared to fourth quarter. Business area Europe’s adjusted EBITDA was further burdened by EUR 12 million currency derivative loss. As expected, business area Americas had a weak quarter caused by high inventories of expensive raw materials. These inventories have now been consumed and we expect the Americas’ profitability to improve supported by the new leadership and revamped commercial and supply chain processes. Operating cash flow developed favorably thanks to increased focus on working capital. The increase of our net debt to EUR 1.37 billion was due to the IFRS 16 accounting change. The EU’s permanent safeguards, introduced in February, have proven to be effective. Cold-rolled imports to Europe have come back to the levels before the introduction of steel tariffs. However, the full market recovery will take some time as the overall economic uncertainty is adversely influencing demand and volumes. Thanks to diligent execution of our must-win battles, our productivity and operational stability have improved substantially providing us a hedge against adverse market circumstances.”

    Highlights in the first quarter of 2019
    Stainless steel deliveries were 621,000 tonnes (644,000 tonnes).
    Adjusted EBITDA was EUR 54 million (EUR 133 million).
    EBITDA was EUR 40 million (EUR 140 million).
    Operating cash flow was EUR 39 million (EUR 39 million).
    Net debt increased to EUR 1,370 million (Dec 31, 2018: EUR 1,241 million).
    Gearing was 51.6% (Dec 31, 2018: 45.1%).
    Return on capital employed (ROCE) was 4.3% (Dec 31, 2018: 7.0%).
    Q1 2019 compared to Q1 2018

    Outokumpu’s sales increased to EUR 1,715 million (EUR 1,671 million). The first-quarter adjusted EBITDA of EUR 54 million was significantly lower than EUR 133 million in the first quarter of 2018 driven particularly by increased graphite electrode and other input costs. Deliveries decreased due to high distributor inventories and softer demand in the Americas and Long Products. Realized base prices decreased as a result of a challenging market in Europe, partly offset by improved pricing and product mix in the Americas. Ferrochrome profitability was negatively impacted by lower contract price and higher costs. The adjusted EBITDA includes a loss of EUR 12 million from currency derivatives. Raw material-related inventory and metal derivative losses were EUR 13 million compared to losses of EUR 5 million in the first quarter of 2018. Other operations and intra-group items’ adjusted EBITDA amounted to EUR 1 million (EUR 10 million). Other operations and intra-group items’ result includes a EUR -14 million adjustment related to a preliminary settlement between Outokumpu and Thyssenkrupp regarding a tax consolidation claim in Italy, as well as other earlier claims from the merger between Outokumpu and Inoxum.

    Outlook for Q2 2019 - In the second quarter, there are no significant changes expected in the stainless steel markets. As a result, Outokumpu expects its stainless steel deliveries to remain at a similar level to the first quarter of 2019. The Ferrochrome result will be positively impacted by the higher ferrochrome benchmark price, partly offset by planned maintenance work in the Tornio ferrochrome operations. Outokumpu expects its second-quarter adjusted EBITDA to be higher than in the first quarter of 2019 (Q1/19: EUR 54 million).

    Source : Strategic Research Institute
  12. forum rang 10 voda 8 mei 2019 15:35
    Outokumpu appoints Olli-Matti Saksi as interim Head of business area Americas

    Olli-Matti Saksi, Outokumpu’s Chief Commercial Officer, has been appointed interim Head of business area Americas with immediate effect. Olli-Matti has been in charge of the Americas’ sales and supply chain organizations since January 2019. Michael S. Williams, who has been leading business area Americas since 2015, has decided to pursue other opportunities outside Outokumpu.

    CEO Roeland Baan said “I want to thank Mike Williams for his invaluable contribution and commitment in developing our operations in the Americas and strengthening our position in this highly competitive market. I wish him all the best for the future”.

    The recruitment process for the new President for business area Americas is ongoing.

    Source : Strategic Research Institute
  13. forum rang 10 voda 5 juni 2019 16:21
    Outokumpu Bags 3 ISSF Awards For Safety, New Technology& New Development

    Finland based leading stainless steel major Outokumpu has received three awards for the year 2019 from the International Stainless Steel Forum including two gold-level awards in the categories of New Technology and New Development as well as a silver-level award in the Safety category. The gold award for best new technology has been given for the bend-formed body structure of small electrified vehicles. The material properties of the temper-rolled austenitic stainless steel combined with the folding principle halve the number of individual components and welds. This results in a much lighter structure (less than 180 kg) with increased crash safety that is constructed by more simple, cost-effective manufacturing processes with shorter cycle times as well as lower CO2-emissions over the whole vehicle lifetime. The technology was developed together with fka Aachen GmbH.

    The gold award for best new development has been given for the first use of duplex stainless steel Forta LDX2404 in a major bridge building project. The new duplex stainless steel form developed by Outokumpu was selected for the Söderström rail bridges project in Stockholm, Sweden due to its strength and life cycle costs. The final fabrication of the 48 bridge parts and assembly was done by our partner Stål & Rörmontage.

    The silver safety award has been given for the improvements in material loading and unloading. After analyzing near misses and serious incidents, material loading, and unloading was recognized as one of Outokumpu’s biggest hazards. The problem was tackled in more than one way using the hierarchy system or error proofing theory and creating new ways of working. Outokumpu now has an agreed standard for truck loading and unloading which is being implemented at all sites.

    Source : Strategic Research Institute
  14. forum rang 10 voda 12 juni 2019 14:24
    Goldman verhoogt adviezen op staalbedrijven

    Gepubliceerd op 12 jun 2019 om 09:03 | Views: 3.738

    AMSTERDAM (AFN/BLOOMBERG) - Analisten van Goldman Sachs zijn positiever geworden over verschillende Europese staalbedrijven. De marktvorsers verhoogden hun oordeel op ArcelorMittal, Aperam, Klöckner en Outokumpu zonder uitzondering naar kopen.

    De kenners denken dat de omstandigheden voor de bedrijven in het tweede halfjaar zullen verbeteren. Dat komt onder meer omdat ze snijden in de capaciteit, de balansen op orde zijn en de ijzerertsprijzen hoog zijn. Het advies voor SSAB ging omlaag terwijl Salzgitter en Acerinox op neutral bleven. Goldman Sachs handhaafde ook het predikaat Conviction Buy voor Voestalpine.

    Het aandeel ArcelorMittal sloot dinsdag op 15,01 euro in de hoofdindex in Amsterdam. Bij de middelgrote bedrijven eindigde Aperam op 23,20 euro.
  15. forum rang 4 torro 13 juni 2019 18:49

    Kredietrating niet langer nodig.
    (ABM FN) Aperam heeft de kredietbeoordelaars Moody's en S&P Global Ratings gevraagd het roestvast staalbedrijf niet langer te volgen en van een kredietwaardigheidsoordeel te voorzien.
    CEO Timoteo Di Maulo zei in een toelichting dat gezien het lage schuldniveau en de financieringsbehoefte van het bedrijf ratings niet langer als noodzakelijk worden beschouwd.
    "We herhalen onze belofte om onze financiele ratio's op het niveau van investment grade te houden", aldus de topman.
    Door: ABM Financial News.
  16. jessebrown 11 juli 2019 15:33
    Outokumpu Oyj
    Press release
    July 10, 2019 at 9.00 am EEST

    Outokumpu – Publishing of the second-quarter 2019 results
    Outokumpu will publish the second-quarter 2019 results on Thursday August 1, 2019 at approximately 9.00 am EEST.
    A conference call for investors and analysts will be held on Thursday August 1, 2019 at 3.00 pm EEST (8.00 am US EST, 1.00 pm UK, 2.00 pm CET). The results call will be hosted by Outokumpu’s CEO Roeland Baan and CFO Pia Aaltonen-Forsell. To participate in the conference call, please dial in 5-10 minutes before the beginning of the event:
    Finland: +358 9 424 51 472
    UK/Europe: +44 20 30 95 710
    US & Canada: +1 91 77 20 01 78
    Confirmation code: 8359944
  17. [verwijderd] 11 juli 2019 20:15

    Staal krijgt (onterecht) er van langs.

    Het zijn de groothuizen en handelaren, die de koers laten bewegen.

    Banken worden beknot in het handelen. Ze mogen alleen krediet verstrekken en sommige banken trekken zich terug uit de aandelenhandel. Grote fondsen kunnen op 1 dag (als ze flinke share in bezit hebben) de koers kantelen want er zijn "geen" banken (of grote spelers) meer die tegenwicht kunnen bieden en dan gaat het snel.

    Het handelen krijgt een andere dimensie. Op staalfondsen wordt flink verdiend. Aperam van 24,9 (paar dagen terug) naar 22,60.
    Outokumpu van 3,05 naar 2,67..
    Het gejojo en opleving ervan, zorgen voor flinke marges.

    Ik blijf zitten en koop beetje bij beetje bij en hopelijk als ik met pensioen ga, kan ik ze eruit knikkeren als ze weer op 9,00 staan (anderhalf jaar terug).
    Kun je nagaan wat Trump veroorzaakt heeft.
    Van 9 euro hoogste top naar 2,60.... en dan zijn er mensen die Trump op handen dragen.

    Dat is een teken voor mij dat Trump niet de wereld nog de economie gestimuleerd heeft, ondanks dat AEX op 567 staat. Hij heeft Outo hardhandig onderuit geschoffeld van 9 naar 2,60.

    We staan ver onder water. Retail beleggers houden hun kaken dicht, maar mijn portfolio heeft een flinke gat. Deels op tijd cash aangehouden, maar Outokumpu is een zware afstraffing en heel lange adem te hebben.

    Maar ze zeggen, na 2 rotjaren gaat zonnetje schijnen en hoop ik dat Amerika verlost is van onnozele Trump, die biljoenen verbrand heeft in de economie.

    Up naar de glorieuze dagen van vroeger voor Trump.

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