Aandeel KPN Koninklijke AEX:KPN.NL, NL0000009082

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ILikeFood schreef op 12 februari 2013 12:16:

Je krijgt altijd verkoopadviezen als de koers al enorm gezakt is, dus te laat, en je krijgt altijd koopadviezen als de koers al heel hard gestegen is, dus te laat. Bij de verkoopadviezen heb je enorm verlies en bij de koopadviezen verdien je niets meer.

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easy56 schreef op 12 februari 2013 12:07:

[...]Ben ik met je eens. Grote kans dat er wel meerdere bevriende partijen een belang hebben van onder de meld-grens. Immers zodra er meer meldingen binnen komen zal er meer vertrouwen ontstaan en de koers gaan stijgen zodat er niet meer laag ingekocht kan worden. Beurshandel word wel bepaald door de grote spelers.Die kunnen de koersrichting bepalen die hun t beste uitkomt. Als kleine belegger zie je dan de meest vreemde bewegingen voorbij gaan. Zelfde geldt voor aan/verkoop adviezen ,teveel eigenbelang verhalen.

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Eurowin schreef op 12 februari 2013 09:19:

Ik wacht nog even, je voelt een dikke correctie aankomen (alle beurzen) en dan weet ik het wel.........

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ILikeFood schreef op 12 februari 2013 11:46:

America Movil seen posting moderate growth in Q4
By Anthony Harrup, Dow Jones Newswires
Monday 11 February 2013
Stronger Mexican peso expected to boost profit at Latin America's biggest mobile operator.
America Movil SAB, Latin America's biggest wireless service provider probably continued on its path of steady but modest growth in the fourth quarter, while a stronger Mexican peso is expected to generate a big jump in net profit.

America Movil's net profit probably rose 50% in the October-December period to 24.5 billion pesos ($1.9 billion), according to the median estimate of six equities analysts consulted by Dow Jones. The increase is expected to reflect slightly higher operating gains and the absence of the hefty foreign exchange loss that affected the bottom line in the fourth quarter of 2011.

America Movil's minority stakes in Royal KPN NV of the Netherlands and Telekom Austria AG, acquired last year as businessman Carlos Slim debuted in the European telecoms market, should also contribute to net profit.

Revenue is expected to be up 8.2% at 196.9 billion pesos, as the company is seen adding 6.1 million wireless subscribers for a total of 262 million across the Americas, and 1.6 million subscriptions to fixed-line services--especially pay television in countries such as Brazil--bringing its total to 64.4 million.

While the stability of the Mexican peso in the fourth quarter was likely supportive of net profit, the peso's relative strength against other currencies such as Brazil's real will likely limit revenue gains in peso terms, several analysts said.

Banorte-Ixe saw increased competition in most markets pressuring results. Special promotions for the holiday season knocked per-minute calling rates down, although an increasing number of smartphone users likely compensated for it, Banorte-Ixe said.

In November, when America Movil unit Telcel launched 4G LTE service in Mexico, Chief Executive Daniel Hajj said around 35% of the unit's 69 million subscribers used data services, including 15% with 3G. Mr. Hajj estimated that between one million and three million users could sign up for 4G in the first year. America Movil also has 4G in Puerto Rico and some Brazilian cities.

Fourth-quarter earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization, or Ebitda, a measure of operating cash flow, is expected to be up 1.7% at MXN65.6 billion.

Stiff competition and increased regulatory pressure, as well as America Movil's foray into Europe, contributed

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Ari UNger schreef op 12 februari 2013 13:59:

Hi,

If you look at Bloomberg "Holders section", BLACKROCK asset management filed that they bought 12.716.709 shares as of 8th Feb to an additional 8.000.000 shares. Some active investors are building their shares from these levels.
In total they become holder of 20.698.831 shares.

rgds

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Fatcat schreef op 12 februari 2013 14:17:

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link please?

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Ari UNger schreef op 12 februari 2013 14:31:

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i have a bloomberg screen in front of me, i guess i cannot copy it.(because of copyright issue!)However, you can check it from other bberg users.They will tell you the same thing.
Blackrock informed the public that they bought exactly 12.713.709 shares as of 8/02. They now own 1.45% of the issued capital! It is interesting to note that they did this buying after the issue announcement. Be careful "smart money" is building the portfolio from here!!!

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Ari UNger schreef op 12 februari 2013 14:31:

[...]

i have a bloomberg screen in front of me, i guess i cannot copy it.(because of copyright issue!)However, you can check it from other bberg users.They will tell you the same thing.
Blackrock informed the public that they bought exactly 12.713.709 shares as of 8/02. They now own 1.45% of the issued capital! It is interesting to note that they did this buying after the issue announcement. Be careful "smart money" is building the portfolio from here!!!

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Ari UNger schreef op 12 februari 2013 14:31:

[...]

i have a bloomberg screen in front of me, i guess i cannot copy it.(because of copyright issue!)However, you can check it from other bberg users.They will tell you the same thing.
Blackrock informed the public that they bought exactly 12.713.709 shares as of 8/02. They now own 1.45% of the issued capital! It is interesting to note that they did this buying after the issue announcement. Be careful "smart money" is building the portfolio from here!!!

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ILikeFood schreef op 12 februari 2013 14:57:

investors.morningstar.com/ownership/s...