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  1. [verwijderd] 10 juni 2009 15:07
    'Londen wil bank Northern Rock weer verkopen'
    10-06-2009 | Gepubliceerd 10:56

    De Britse overheid onderzoekt de mogelijkheden om de genationaliseerde bank Northern Rock later dit jaar te verkopen. Dat meldde woensdag de Britse krant The Times, die zich beriep op bronnen rond het ministerie van Financiën.

    Adviseurs zouden kijken naar verscheidene opties voor Northern Rock. De bank zou naar de beurs gebracht kunnen worden, doorverkocht kunnen worden aan een andere financiële instelling of veranderd worden in een coöperatieve bank.

    Dit zou al in de herfst kunnen plaatsvinden, aldus The Times.

    Kredietcrisis
    Northern Rock was ruim anderhalf jaar geleden een van de eerste banken in Europa die in de problemen kwam als gevolg van de krediet- en hypotheekcrisis. De bank moest met miljardenleningen overeind worden gehouden.

    In februari vorig jaar werd de bank genationaliseerd.

    ANP

    Iemand enig idee wat dit kan betekenen voor de voormalige aandeelhouders die per 22 februari 2008 de bank genationaliseerd zagen worden en die compensatie in het vooruitzicht werd gesteld?
  2. [verwijderd] 10 juni 2009 16:04
    Als een bank/bedrijf genationaliseerd zijn dan zijn alle aandeelhouders hun aandelen kwijt.

    Enige wat dan nog soelaas kan bieden is als de staat in een of andere vorm een schadevergoeding zou willen betalen maar dan nemen ze de aandelen over en hadden dat eigenlijk voor nationalisatie moeten doen.

  3. [verwijderd] 10 juni 2009 16:40
    Er is nog hoop, dunkt mij...

    The Banking (Special Provisions) Act 2008 provides for an Order to set up a compensation scheme under which an independent valuer will assess any compensation which may be payable to holders of shares transferred to HM Treasury and certain other affected parties.

    Andrew Caldwell, Valuations Partner at BDO Stoy Hayward has been appointed by HM Treasury as an independent valuer to assess any compensation that may be payable to former Northern Rock shareholders affected by the transfer of Northern Rock into Temporary Public Ownership on 22 February 2008. The appointment was made by HMT Ministers, on recommendation from an advisory panel, following a competitive process.

    If you require further information on the current status of the valuation process, please contact the Independent Valuer directly either via his website www.northernrockvaluer.org.uk, or via his helpline on 0800 3777 353.

  4. [verwijderd] 10 juni 2009 16:53

    Welcome
    Last updated: 9 June 2009

    This website contains all available information regarding the Independent Valuer’s work on the valuation of Northern Rock shares.

    It is the responsibility of the Independent Valuer, and only the Independent Valuer, to make the final decision on the value of Northern Rock shares in accordance with the Northern Rock plc Compensation Scheme Order 2008. No decision has yet been made as to the value of shares.

    The Independent Valuer is working to conduct a fair, open and transparent valuation under the compensation scheme and he has issued letters to all identified Affected Parties to explain the steps involved in the valuation process.

    The Independent Valuer is currently requesting and obtaining information relevant to the valuation process. Affected Parties have been invited to submit comments on the proposed procedure and valuation approach.

    The Independent Valuer shall be taking the comments he receives into account when he finalises both the valuation procedure and the approach that he intends to take to the valuation.

    This site provides the most up-to-date information on the valuation process. However, if you would prefer to speak to someone in person, please call 0800 3777 353. Alternatively please email northern.rock@bdo.co.uk

  5. [verwijderd] 10 juni 2009 22:46
    Onduidelijk is nog hoeveel de overheid aan de huidige aandeelhouders van Northern Rock betaalt voor de overname. Een onafhankelijke taxateur moet dat bedrag vaststellen. De aandelenkoers van de bank, die in de zomer van 2007 nog 6.500 werknemers had, kelderde van 1222 pence in juli naar 90 pence in februari 2008. Tegen die koers zou de bank 379 miljoen pond (een half miljard euro) waard zijn.

    www.northernrockvaluer.org.uk/
  6. Winterspons 10 juni 2009 23:10
    Ik heb ook nog zo'n 1500 aandeeltjes NR in mijn portfolio staan. Ze staan er alleen maar; ik heb er al maanden niets aan. Ik hoop dat er toch een fatsoenlijke compensatie komt.
    Of nog beter, laat ze de aandelen weer terug geven aan de huidige eigenaren. Het geleende geld van de overheid is al voor zo'n 65% terugbetaald meende ik.
    Zijn er nog meerdere "slachtoffers"?
    Gr.
    Jan
  7. [verwijderd] 4 augustus 2009 10:46
    di 04 aug 2009, 09:25 Zwaar verlies Northern Rock

    LONDEN (AFN) - De Britse bank Northern Rock heeft 724,2 miljoen pond (ruim 853 miljoen euro) verlies geleden in de eerste zes maanden van dit jaar. In dezelfde periode vorig jaar leed de genationaliseerde bank een verlies van 585,4 miljoen pond. Dat heeft Northern Rock dinsdag bekendgemaakt.

    Northern Rock was een van de eerste banken in Europa die in de problemen kwam door kredietcrisis. Met miljardenleningen hield de Britse overheid Northern Rock in februari vorig jaar overeind.

    Northern Rock wacht momenteel op goedkeuring van de Europese Commissie voor een nieuwe kapitaalinjectie van de Britse overheid. De bank is momenteel bezig de bank te splitsen in een spaarbank die nieuwe leningen zal uitgeven en een bank die overblijft met bestaande leningen.

    De lopende gesprekken met Brussel maken goede vorderingen, aldus topman Gary Hoffman dinsdag. Hij verwacht in de herfst goedkeuring te krijgen.
  8. [verwijderd] 8 augustus 2009 23:38
    Cumberland NewsBusinessRock appeal bid fails
    Last updated 05:18, Friday, 31 July 2009

    FORMER shareholders in nationalised bank Northern Rock have failed in a renewed legal challenge to the Government’s “zero return” compensation scheme.

    The Court of Appeal in London this week dismissed an appeal by individual shareholders – including current and retired employees of the Newcastle-based bank – and two hedge funds which also stand to lose out.

    They had attacked the scheme as “unlawful, unfair and disproportionate”.

    They claimed the compensation scheme was deliberately based on false criteria which would lead to shares being valued at zero so the Government would inevitably make a profit when the bank, which has a branch in Carlisle, was eventually sold off. But Lord Justice Laws, sitting with Master of the Rolls Lord Clarke and Lord Justice Waller, rejected any suggestion that the scheme was “in truth only a charade, the product of a settled intention by government to set a formula which would yield a zero figure for compensation”.

    The scheme was reasonably designed to put shareholders of the ailing bank in the position they would have occupied, vis-a-vis the value of their shares, had no financial support been provided by the Bank of England and the Treasury, the judge said.

    Judges upheld the Government’s argument that, but for that support, Northern Rock would have been unable to pay debts and would have had to cease business
  9. [verwijderd] 17 augustus 2009 23:04
    Rock campaign hits brick wall
    Northern Rock's former shareholders have threatened to take their case for compensation to the European Court of Human Rights, in a process that may last another four years, after losing their appeal at the end of July.

    The Court of Appeal dismissed the case by private shareholders and two hedge funds for a judicial review of the compensation scheme, which will pay them next to nothing if the valuer's assumption that Northern Rock was "in administration" at the time of nationalisation is left intact.

    Investors have attacked the scheme as "unlawful, unfair and manifestly disproportionate". Hedge fund SRM Global, which was the Rock's largest shareholder, "will be seeking permission to appeal to the House of Lords" and indicated it may go to the European Court of Human Rights. An appeal in the Lords could be heard next summer. An appeal to the European Court may take three years.

    The former shareholders, including staff at the Newcastle-based firm, say the compensation scheme is based on false criteria and would hand the state a profit when the bank is sold. SRM has argued that shareholders should get 400p a share. Under the scheme, they are expected to get about 5p a share.
  10. [verwijderd] 19 augustus 2009 22:36
    quote:

    de bos schreef:

    fintech
    Leuk schematje, al ben je bijna de enige die post, het lang volgen van de nationalisatieperikelen is informatief om te lezen. Ik denk alleen niet dat er ex-NR shareholders bij IEX zitten.

    de bos
    Maybe.

    * AUGUST 19, 2009

    Northern Rock Defers Payments

    online.wsj.com/article/SB125058067452...
  11. [verwijderd] 8 december 2009 22:59

    Northern Rock investors will not get compensation

    Independent valuer based his calculation on how much money the lender would have had left for shareholders after it had repaid the £25bn loan from the Bank of England

    Northern Rock
    Northern Rock was nationalised almost two years ago. Thousands of Northern Rock investors have suffered a setback in their claims for compensation following the nationalisation of the Newcastle-based lender nearly two years ago after the independent valuer concluded that there was "no value" in the bank's shares.

    After receiving "several thousand" responses, the independent valuer Andrew Caldwell published a consultation document in which he concludes that shareholders should receive "no compensation".

    His pronouncements came as the government said the nationalised lender could be split in two – in to a "good" and "bad" bank – on 1 January. However, government sources warned that hopes that the "good" part of the bank could be sold before an election were rapidly fading.

    The division of the bank, which has been sanctioned by Europe, will have implications for mortgage customers of Northern Rock as some customers will be placed into the "bad" bank.

    The Treasury select committee of MPs, which yesterday signalled it would begin a new inquiry into why some banks were deemed "too big to fail", is also expected to weigh the pros and cons of Northern Rock being turned back into a mutual – a status it held before 1997.

    Responding to a campaign at Westminster, partly organised by the Co-operative Party and which has seen 100 MPs sign a parliamentary motion jointly calling for the bank to be remutualised, the committee will look at the "relationship between size and risk, and business model (including mutual models) and risk".

    The investigation into whether shareholders should be compensated has taken longer than expected, Caldwell, a partner at accountants BDO Stoy Hayward, admitted. He encountered difficulties in obtaining the information he needed – and had been promised – when he was appointed by the Treasury 14 months ago. He did not receive some of the information until last month, further delaying the publication of today's consultation document. His report has cost £4.5m.

    But shareholders, led by hedge fund manager Jon Wood, who have demanded compensation from the government and are determined to carry on their fight and are ready to take their claim to the European court of human rights in Strasbourg.

    Wood, who is awaiting a decision from Britain's new supreme court about whether the methodology used by Caldwell can be challenged, said: "I do really think we'll get justice in the end."

    Under the terms of his appointment, Caldwell based his calculation on the lender being in administration and no longer "a going concern" after all assistance from the Bank of England and the Treasury had been withdrawn.

    He calculated how much money Northern Rock would have had left for shareholders after it had repaid the £25bn loan from the Bank of England, granted in September 2007 when it experienced funding difficulties during the credit crunch.

    He concluded that it was "unlikely" Northern Rock could have been sold in its entirety and therefore searched for any assets the lender could have sold to raise the necessary funds. Following a complex analysis, he concluded that the lender would actually have had no money left after repaying the loan and would have been "in a deficit" of £5.7bn.

    However, Wood and other shareholders have argued that the basis for the review for compensation should have assumed that the lender was still a "going concern" when it was nationalised. If this had been the case, shares in Northern Rock might have been valued at £4, Wood argued.
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