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  2. na de crash 26 november 2024 10:07
    quote:

    Nakennis schreef op 26 november 2024 09:25:

    Ik bevroed dat het aandeel zeer spoedig onder de 20 euro zal gaan.

    Inmiddels is mij wel duidelijk dat overal waar Niels Koerts inzit ik niet in wil beleggen.

    Juist contrair.

    Zelfden gezien dat iemand zo vaak mispeert.
    Heb je ooit al eens een bericht gepost dat niet over Niels Koerts gaat? En denk je dat er hier 1 persoon is die zich daarin interesseert?
  3. forum rang 4 VforVermogen 26 november 2024 18:12
    quote:

    Plein777 schreef op 26 november 2024 09:36:

    Hedge funds kopen aandelen in de USA first en dumpen Europese aandelen, dat lijkt mij gaande de komende tijd.
    Zie bijv: Heineken, ASML, LVMH en anderen kwaliteits aandelen.
    Helemaal prima, ik heb dit jaar al het geld dat ik kon missen aangewend om mijn positie uit te breiden. Vanochtend voor de laatste keer. Nu niks meer aan doen en een aantal jaar wachten. Eens kijken wat m'n volgende slachtoffer wordt.
  4. forum rang 5 The Third Way... 27 november 2024 09:14
    We hebben het hier al vaak gehad over het misbruik met de toegangspasjes waarover BFIT niet rapporteert, hieronder blijkt op Reddit dat dit nog steeds speelt:

    www.reddit.com/r/juridischadvies/comm...

    Q
    Access rules changed in Basic-fit
    Consumentenrecht / Consumer Law

    I have a 1 year membership with basic-fit. To access the gym you scan a qr code on your phone app. Previously you can scan and re-enter after 1 hour but now it has been increased to 3 hours.

    I go to the gym for about 45 minutes then I have to step out to take care of some matters but I'm back within an hour to finish my exercise, with the new change from 1 hour to 3 hours reentry that has become impossible.

    I tried speaking to customer service but no luck. Any idea if I have a right to cancel the contract?

    A
    I don't think this rule is the exact contractual obligation designed for you. It specifically is designed not for you. In the sense that you have a contract, and by that nobody else should access the gym on your card. Basic fit being budget, they do not have an employee stationed at the entrance, so pre programmed scanning device checks the validity of your card. And that is the crux: it validates your card. It does not validate you.

    To combat abuse of students just passing around the same card, the system simply blocks re-entry for a period as it is deemed unlikely that someone would leave and want to re-enter the gym shortly thereafter. Unrealistic. In most cases. But it does up the burden for friends and families to just pass the card around.

    However, that should not be your issue. You have access to the gym. You have a card. You have a contract. That their method is "onze size fits all", and it does not fit you, should not be your problem to begin with. You can perfectly indicate it is you, with your card, and a valid contract.

    Simply ring the bell and wait for an employee to show up. File a complaint if you want. I doubt this is severe enough for a full contract cancellation.
  6. Sheridans 27 november 2024 15:07
    Persoonlijk heb ik al even gedaan met bijkopen en begin ik mijn geduld te verliezen. Een tijdje slecht nieuws kan altijd, maar het steeds dalen en/of aanmodderen zonder nieuws begin ik als uiterst vervelend te ervaren.

    Iedere smartphone is tegenwoordig uitgerust met gezichtsherkenning. Dus het lijkt me niet moeilijk om de pasjes te koppelen aan een database of ingebouwde chip en een deftige camera te installeren aan de ingang van iedere zaal.
  7. forum rang 5 The Third Way... 27 november 2024 15:40
    quote:

    Sheridans schreef op 27 november 2024 15:07:

    Persoonlijk heb ik al even gedaan met bijkopen en begin ik mijn geduld te verliezen. Een tijdje slecht nieuws kan altijd, maar het steeds dalen en/of aanmodderen zonder nieuws begin ik als uiterst vervelend te ervaren.

    Iedere smartphone is tegenwoordig uitgerust met gezichtsherkenning. Dus het lijkt me niet moeilijk om de pasjes te koppelen aan een database of ingebouwde chip en een deftige camera te installeren aan de ingang van iedere zaal.
    Mbt. jouw tweede punt, volledig akkoord. Over communicatie, BFIT heeft bij mijn weten nog steeds niet op hun website aangegeven dat de benoeming van de nieuwe CFO is goedgekeurd. Weet iemand meer?
  11. forum rang 5 maarten030 28 november 2024 08:53
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    Rafke7 schreef op 27 november 2024 15:56:

    Heel veel spijt dat ik dit aandeel op 25, met degelijk winst, niet gewoon de deur uit gegooid heb.
    Als je als belegger alleen maar focust op de koers dan moet je niet beleggen. Kijk naar de cijfers en de groei. Er is niks veranderd met het bedrijf sinds de vorige cijfers.
  14. Wollin 28 november 2024 10:34
    quote:

    maarten030 schreef op 28 november 2024 09:29:

    [...]

    Haha als we het van zulke beleggers moeten hebben komt het nooit goed met het aandeel. Dat is toch geen beleggen meer?
    Hahaha???
    Meer dan 3 kwart jaar onder water gestaan.
    Dood geld, was even blij dat ik er vanaf was.
    Toch winst gepakt.
    Toen weer hard naar beneden en ingestapt van 25 naar 23,75.
    Jou manier is uiteraard beter toch?? Knap hoor van een afstand bepalen hoe ik met mijn geld om ga
  15. forum rang 4 VforVermogen 28 november 2024 20:00
    quote:

    The Third Way... schreef op 27 november 2024 15:40:

    [...]
    Mbt. jouw tweede punt, volledig akkoord. Over communicatie, BFIT heeft bij mijn weten nog steeds niet op hun website aangegeven dat de benoeming van de nieuwe CFO is goedgekeurd. Weet iemand meer?
    Ja, is 15 oktober goedgekeurd bij een buitengewone vergadering.

    Zie documenten op corporate.basic-fit.com/investors/sha...
  16. forum rang 5 The Third Way... 29 november 2024 07:41
    Heeft concurrent RSG net zijn Spaanse 'low cost' sportscholen verkocht aan BFIT, nu kondigt het zijn terugkeer aan. De focus ligt op het Best Value segment net boven BFIT aan 30 tot 40 euro/maand, dus bijna vergelijkbaar qua prijs maar veel beter aanbod. Loopt BFIT het risico om nu zelf in de 'squeeze' terecht te komen tussen RSG en Planet Fitness (veel goedkoper)? En wie is ook hier de ideale partner?

    The emblematic American chain Gold's Gym, which belongs to RSG Group, will debut in 2025 with two gyms in the province of Barcelona. The master franchise is looking for investors to accelerate its expansion.

    RSG Group will return to Spain a few months after announcing its total divestment with the sale of McFIT to Basic-Fit. The German group will have a presence in the country again at the beginning of 2025, but it will not be carried out with any low-cost brand, but with another medium-priced one, Gold's Gym, one of the oldest gym chains in the world. The master franchise that has acquired the rights to exploit the brand in Spain plans to invest between 40 million and 50 million euros in its development over the next decade.

    Ignacio Barbancho leads the pool of businessmen who will be in charge of this project. He has a career of more than two decades in the sports and health sector, with experience in Toral Clinic, Playoff Consulting, Parc del Garraf Sport AIE, DiR or the Real Guadalhorce Club de Golf, among others. A year ago, he and his partners travelled to one of RSG Group's centres in Berlin, where they acquired the right to expand the brand in Spain. Months later, the master franchise has already signed its first location and the second very late, both in the province of Barcelona.

    The company plans to invest around 2 million euros in each establishment and will debut in Terrassa (Barcelona), with a space of 3,600 square meters. The venue will have a large fitness room of more than 1,500 square meters and a car park. "We hope that it will be one of the reference gyms in this city, where we believe we can have a great fit," Barbancho explains to 2Playbook. The centre where it will be located was occupied until a few months ago by a Mercadona supermarket, which moved to another busier location. This point is not trivial, as the master franchise has begun to draw alliances with different firms in the real estate sector to be able to access large premises.

    "Our development plan is different from that of a conventional chain: we do not seek to grow through agreements with real estate agents (API), but we have built partnerships with real estate projects under development, where hotels and homes will be built, and also with supermarkets with interesting locations, so that when they leave we can enter. This will allow us to access premium locations without entering into rental wars," says Barbancho.

    In addition to the project in Terrassa, which will begin work in a few weeks, in 2025 it will also inaugurate another in the same province. "We hope that it will be our flagship in the Barcelona area. It will have 5,000 square meters, of which 3,800 square meters are useful, the rest parking," says the company's head in the country. Its expansion will not end here, as it is in advanced negotiations to acquire two locations in Madrid, as well as others in Bilbao and Murcia.

    Its intention is to open between 20 and 25 clubs of its own in the next decade. Its growth will be organic, as it rules out expanding through purchases, although it opens the door to finding financial partners. "We started with our own resources, but we are open to investment funds to accelerate growth, although at a pace that does not stress us," he says.

    Closer, for the moment, seems to be the other option it is contemplating, finding franchisees willing to develop the brand in certain territories. In fact, it is already in talks with investors interested in this option, with which its roadmap could be expanded to 40 locations. "We will do it in dribs and drabs, since we only want to work with people who provide the capital and we are the ones who assume the management," says the executive.

    Its objective is to reach a ratio of 1.5 members per square meter, until it reaches between 3,000 and 4,000 users. "We want spaces where there is no saturation of users or lack of space," he adds. Regarding the price, Barbancho clarifies that it will vary depending on the location. "The real estate market limits us, as does the amount of equipment that we end up incorporating into each premises," he says.

    "Spain is a very competitive market, with brands that do it well. We know the market well and the few opportunities that may remain. At the moment we are looking for locations where we can have little competition, although we trust in the differential value of the brand and its product," reflects the head of the master franchise in Spain. This, in fact, will not be the only country in which it will grow in the coming months. "RSG Group is very active selling contracts throughout Europe, it will also enter France," he anticipates.

    The arrival of Gold's Gym in Spain, in fact, was already close to materializing in 2021, as 2Playbook advanced. RSG Group acquired the U.S. chain in 2020, when it was going through an economic bankruptcy process due to the pandemic. Since then, it began to pilot its expansion in Europe, proposing Italy, Germany and Spain as its first destinations. The expansion in the Iberian Peninsula was planned through its own gyms that depended on the German group and franchises.

    Schaller's death in 2022, however, modified the plans of the group, which a few months earlier had exported another of its brands, John Reed, through an alliance with footballer Sergio Ramos. Its new administrators opted to focus the operations of the company's headquarters on the German-speaking markets - Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Poland - as well as the United States and some occasional incursions into strategic locations such as Milan. In the rest of the territories, its growth would be limited to franchisees. Hence, they stopped considering their presence in Spain strategic and put McFit's business in the country up for sale.

    One of the particularities of the chain will be the design and distribution of its facilities. Each one will have, as a general rule, a reception with a seating area to encourage the socialization of users; a large fitness room where group classes will also be held, and a room for directed activities, as well as changing rooms.

    "The look and feel has changed a lot since it was bought by RSG Group. The ceilings are high and the atmosphere is different, with more interior design. The layout is very careful and thought out, because we seek to offer a very complete experience that solves the needs of both amateur users and athletes," says the executive.

    www.2playbook.com/fitness/roadmap-gol...
  17. forum rang 5 The Third Way... 29 november 2024 07:46
    Na een blijkbaar zeer succesvolle eerste club in Barcelona opent Planet Fitness nu ook een club in Madrid. Abo prijzen beginnen met 15 euro/maand, bijna de helft van BFIT:

    Planet Fitness, one of the fastest growing gym chains and franchises in the world and with the largest number of members of any fitness brand, has today opened the doors of its first club in the Community of Madrid, specifically in the town of Fuenlabrada. It is a totally differentiating model for the sector, which has already triumphed in other countries and which, since July, has been reaping great success in Sabadell (Barcelona). Under the slogan 'We don't judge', Planet Fitness arrives in Spain to address and end one of the great barriers to going to the gym or doing sports: bullying or shame.

    gymfactory.net/2024/11/20/planet-fitn...
  18. forum rang 5 The Third Way... 29 november 2024 07:54
    Nog een voorbeeld van een zeer snel groeiende Spaanse 'low-cost' keten, op basis van nu 15 euro/maand van nu bijna 200 naar 500 clubs in 2030:

    Unstoppable Vivagym after a new acquisition
    VivaGym has taken another step forward in its expansion with the acquisition of four gyms from the One Fit chain, which reinforces its growth strategy in the Iberian fitness sector. This operation brings it to 196 centres in Iberia, 161 of them in Spain, and brings it even closer to its goal of reaching 500 operational centres by 2030.
    ...
    VivaGym, which was recently acquired by the investment fund Providence Equity Partners, continues with its expansion strategy both nationally and internationally, standing out for its accessible and flexible business model for the public.

    gymfactory.net/2024/11/20/vivagym-imp...
  20. Umi1 29 november 2024 20:41
    Maak er ook niet meer van dan het is hé. Blijft iets om op te volgen uiteraard. Als er teveel kapitaal naar 1 sector vloeit, dalen de marges..

    In NL had je ook de fusie sport city & fit for free. Zijn die nu eigenlijk effectief failliet gegaan of is er een doorstart gekomen?

    PF Barca; niet onverdeeld goede reacties, algemeen wel OK, maar vaker in een nieuwe club natuurlijk. Die kapper is een klucht lees ik.
    PF madrid;
    "They don't let you use weights, take photos with your cell phone, or wear thin tank tops. Instead of a gym he looks like a psychologist. It is a gym for beginners, seniors or older people. I do not recommend it for advanced training."

    Vivagym; die was er al & BFIT groeit dus nog steeds sneller. Mogelijk ook meer focus op Portugal? Is ook geen 15/maand maar 22 a 32 euro per maand.

    goldgym; met dat budget kunnen ze max 35 nieuwe clubs openen, ze spraken ook over een periode van 10jaar.
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