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Trader Stef schreef op 23 september 2024 13:03:

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Tis werkelijk heel simpel.
De MM staat niet in het boekje maar koopt en verkoopt continu.
Ze worden betaald voor hun arbitrage maar zijn verplicht de handel liquide te houden.
Ik kreeg alles (uiteindelijk) binnen op 1,198 terwijl er slecht 15.000 in de laat stonden en de koers 1,200 werd aangegeven.

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Jeliazkov schreef op 23 september 2024 13:15:

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As vrijdag toch?
Ik ga die dag sws een deel verkopen. Even wat cash nodig. Hopelijk positieve berichten met een streepje omhoog voor PNL.

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Jeliazkov schreef op 23 september 2024 12:52:

Onze John heeft hier al eens eerder over verhaald n.a.v. mijn vergelijkbare ervaringen. Enkele 10.000-den in de bied of laat mijnerzijds en ik zie slechts een klein gedeelte terug in het (DeGiro-)boekje.

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Trader Stef schreef op 23 september 2024 13:01:

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Doe je goed. Zit nu op 2.960.000 stukkies en gok erop dat de berichten rondom IDS eind deze maand eindelijk de boel in beweging zetten.

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Jason Lee schreef op 23 september 2024 14:50:

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Yeah right.. laat eens een prinsscreen zien van je gehele positie.

Ik geloof nu dat je er net pas sinds vandaag inzit :-)

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Trader Stef schreef op 23 september 2024 13:33:

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Voor zover ik heb begrepen gaan de IDS aandeelhouders aanstaande maandag beslissen.
Heb niet de meest recente berichtgeving hieromtrent gevolgd.

Als de aandeelhouders onverhoopt toch tegenstemmen gaat de koers weer naar 230-250p.
Lijkt me dus dat dit hun uitweg is.

Daarna nog de weg voor goedkeuring regering en wat waakhonden. Dit loopt voor een deel parallel.

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Daan1 schreef op 23 september 2024 15:10:

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Ik weet het niet of er genoeg partijen vooorstemmen. Denk niet dat het zo makkelijk gaat worden voor K.

www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/a...

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Trader Stef schreef op 23 september 2024 15:34:

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Moeilijk te zeggen.
Ik denk dat ze de druk er vol op houden.
K zit klem en gaat mss naar 400p.

Geeft wel aan dat PostNL niet voor een appel en ei naar kretinsky gaat.

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Peerke1076 schreef op 23 september 2024 16:26:

Klopt Daniel Kretinsky en zijn schoon familie hebben een veels te groot liquiditeits probleem ze hebben teveel poen

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Trader Stef schreef op 23 september 2024 17:01:

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Klopt Peerke.
Z’n schoonmoeder is de rijkste vrouw van Tsjechië zoniet Europa.

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pietje-2005 schreef op 23 september 2024 15:40:

De bonden in de UK willen het er ook nog even over hebben , met de heer K. , volgens hun recente update:
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18th September 2024 TO: ALL POSTAL BRANCHES Dear Colleague THE FUTURE OF ROYAL MAIL – CWU LABOUR PARTY CONFERENCE MOTION The purpose of this LTB is to provide Branches with an advanced copy of a motion that has been submitted to the Labour Party Conference regarding the future of Royal Mail. The motion covers the interventions we are asking the Labour Government to make on the takeover bid, the USO and the need for them to move forward their Manifesto commitment to explore new business and governance models that give workers and customers a greater say over the future direction of the company. You will see we have also attached the text of the motion set out in a workplace communication and we are asking all Branches to ensure this is distributed to our representatives and members in all workplaces. We will be providing Branches with a further update on all these issues, including on what transpires after our next meeting with Daniel Kretinsky, which is scheduled to take place in the next couple of weeks. Finally, please ensure that you use the terms of the motion to also engage our members on the need to vote yes in the forthcoming Political Fund ballot.
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Die dingetjes zijn, volgens hen:
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“Critical UK Infrastructure – The Future of Royal Mail Conference welcomes the Labour Government’s decision on the 1st August 2024 to examine the proposed takeover of Royal Mail by Czech billionaire, Daniel Kretinsky, under the National Security and Investment Act. Conference recognises privatisation has failed customers and workers and that the company’s recent leadership has grossly mismanaged Royal Mail’s fi nances, while continuing to prioritise shareholder interests over its own employees. Conference recognises the company has manufactured a crisis in service quality, staffi ng and morale to facilitate USO reform, in conjunction with Ofcom. Their current Universal Service Obligation (USO) reform plan solely focuses on cost-cutting and extreme price increases, rather than utilising its trusted workforce and unrivalled national infrastructure to develop new growth opportunities and to maximise social value in supporting our NHS and communities. Conference agrees the Government must now urgently intervene and act to secure the future of Royal Mail, protecting the interests of customers, workers and the country, as follows: • As part of the assessment of the proposed takeover, ensure stronger contractual obligations are provided, including on the future of the USO, the need to protect jobs and on preventing asset stripping or the splitting of the company. • Ensure that any fi nal decision on USO reform is taken by the government, rather than Ofcom and Royal Mail’s failed leadership team. • Facilitate a new business governance and ownership model that truly aligns the interest of employees, customers and the company.” You will see the motion covers the crucial issues that will determine the future of Royal Mail and our members’ jobs. In submitting this motion, the union will be using this as a platform for further political and industrial activities, including direct engagement with our members to gain their support in taking whatever steps are necessary, to achieve the best possible outcome for our members, customers and the future of the company. Please ensure that copies of this communication are distributed to all representatives and members in all workplaces. Finally, the terms of this motion and the interventions that we are asking the Labour Government to make, further demonstrates the need to engage members and urge them to vote yes in the imminent Political Fund ballot. Yours sincerely
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Het zijn slechts de bonden, natuurlijk, maar die hebben het nu over komende weken, dus kan langer gaan duren ?
Dat "Royal Mail’s failed leadership team" klinkt weer bekend ? ;-)

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MyOpinion schreef op 23 september 2024 17:55:

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an komt heel erg tevreden lachend zijn stamkroeg binnen.
Piet: "Hallo Jan, lange tijd niet gezien!"
Jan: "Nee dat klopt!"
Piet: "Zo, jij verkeerd in een uitstekend humeur zo te zien!"
Jan: "Ja, dat klopt, dat is zo ja!"
Piet: "En hoe komt dat zo dan, wat is de reden?"
Jan: "Nou, ik ga morgen een plezierreisje maken!"
Piet: "Toe maar, wat ga je doen dan?"
Jan: "Ik ga m'n schoonmoeder naar Schiphol brengen!"

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pietje-2005 schreef op 23 september 2024 15:40:

De bonden in de UK willen het er ook nog even over hebben , met de heer K. , volgens hun recente update:
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18th September 2024 TO: ALL POSTAL BRANCHES Dear Colleague THE FUTURE OF ROYAL MAIL – CWU LABOUR PARTY CONFERENCE MOTION The purpose of this LTB is to provide Branches with an advanced copy of a motion that has been submitted to the Labour Party Conference regarding the future of Royal Mail. The motion covers the interventions we are asking the Labour Government to make on the takeover bid, the USO and the need for them to move forward their Manifesto commitment to explore new business and governance models that give workers and customers a greater say over the future direction of the company. You will see we have also attached the text of the motion set out in a workplace communication and we are asking all Branches to ensure this is distributed to our representatives and members in all workplaces. We will be providing Branches with a further update on all these issues, including on what transpires after our next meeting with Daniel Kretinsky, which is scheduled to take place in the next couple of weeks. Finally, please ensure that you use the terms of the motion to also engage our members on the need to vote yes in the forthcoming Political Fund ballot.
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Die dingetjes zijn, volgens hen:
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“Critical UK Infrastructure – The Future of Royal Mail Conference welcomes the Labour Government’s decision on the 1st August 2024 to examine the proposed takeover of Royal Mail by Czech billionaire, Daniel Kretinsky, under the National Security and Investment Act. Conference recognises privatisation has failed customers and workers and that the company’s recent leadership has grossly mismanaged Royal Mail’s fi nances, while continuing to prioritise shareholder interests over its own employees. Conference recognises the company has manufactured a crisis in service quality, staffi ng and morale to facilitate USO reform, in conjunction with Ofcom. Their current Universal Service Obligation (USO) reform plan solely focuses on cost-cutting and extreme price increases, rather than utilising its trusted workforce and unrivalled national infrastructure to develop new growth opportunities and to maximise social value in supporting our NHS and communities. Conference agrees the Government must now urgently intervene and act to secure the future of Royal Mail, protecting the interests of customers, workers and the country, as follows: • As part of the assessment of the proposed takeover, ensure stronger contractual obligations are provided, including on the future of the USO, the need to protect jobs and on preventing asset stripping or the splitting of the company. • Ensure that any fi nal decision on USO reform is taken by the government, rather than Ofcom and Royal Mail’s failed leadership team. • Facilitate a new business governance and ownership model that truly aligns the interest of employees, customers and the company.” You will see the motion covers the crucial issues that will determine the future of Royal Mail and our members’ jobs. In submitting this motion, the union will be using this as a platform for further political and industrial activities, including direct engagement with our members to gain their support in taking whatever steps are necessary, to achieve the best possible outcome for our members, customers and the future of the company. Please ensure that copies of this communication are distributed to all representatives and members in all workplaces. Finally, the terms of this motion and the interventions that we are asking the Labour Government to make, further demonstrates the need to engage members and urge them to vote yes in the imminent Political Fund ballot. Yours sincerely
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Het zijn slechts de bonden, natuurlijk, maar die hebben het nu over komende weken, dus kan langer gaan duren ?
Dat "Royal Mail’s failed leadership team" klinkt weer bekend ? ;-)

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prinszicht schreef op 23 september 2024 18:35:

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“….grossly mismanaged finances…..”

Ook hier krijgt de aandeelhouder de schuld. Maar bij ons PostNL kijken we naar 1,20 en moeten direct na COVID aan de bedelstaf. Ik hoorde de bonden niet bij Sandd, Claim, buitenlandse flops, groen en wat nog meer. Die kijken naar een eurootje plus in dividend en geven de aandeelhouder de schuld. Terwijl we 6 eurootjes konden krijgen van de Belgen. Die nu 12 eurootjes waard zijn ivm inflatie. Of anders, de koers is nu 3 kwartjes ivm de tijden van het bod. K is niet de redder.