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  1. [verwijderd] 6 september 2023 09:27
    Crypto market ‘dramatically underestimates’ bullishness of spot Bitcoin ETFs
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    “It’s reckless not to aggressively accumulate BTC at current levels,” K33 senior analyst Velte Lund says in a new report.

    BTC exchange-traded fund (ETF) approval to drive prices up is dramatically underestimated by the crypto market, claim analysts from crypto research firm K33 — formerly Arcane Research.

    In a Sept. 5 market report, K33 senior analyst Vetle Lunde and vice president Anders Helseth said the last three months had greatly improved the chances of a spot Bitcoin ETF approval but that sentiment had not been reflected in the price of Bitcoin or other mainstay crypto assets.

    The analysts explained while Bitcoin had all but given up its gains in the wake of Grayscale’s legal victory over the Securities and Exchange Commission, an approval would “attract enormous inflows” and significantly increase buying pressure for Bitcoin.

    Bitcoin returned its gains in the wake of Grayscale's victory. Source: K33 Research
    However, the downside of a potential spot ETF rejection would be “negligible” and Bitcoin prices would simply maintain business as usual, they wrote.

    Lunde and Helseth added that given the increased likelihood of spot ETF approvals — with several Bloomberg analysts now predicting a 75% chance of approval within the year — the market's outlook on ETFs is fundamentally incorrect.

    “I firmly believe the market is wrong. This is, by all accounts, a buyer’s market, and it’s reckless not to aggressively accumulate BTC at current levels.”
    Bolstering their bullish prediction, the analysts looked to the recent 2% gain in the tech-heavy Nasdaq-100 index, often viewed as an indicator of the broader market's risk appetite.

    ETH set to outperform BTC
    Additionally, Lunde and Helserth shared their optimism for the price of Ether, explaining that ETH appears likely to outperform Bitcoin over the next two months as it will benefit from strong momentum ahead of a futures-based ETF listing.

    Related: BTC bull market began in March, more will realize in a year — Arthur Hayes

    They explained Ether may track a similar path to Bitcoin which gained roughly 60% in the weeks leading up to the launch of the first Bitcoin futures-based ETF on Oct. 19, 2021.

    The verdict on a futures-based Ether ETF is slated to be handed down in mid-October, which is reportedly set to get the green light from the SEC.
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  2. [verwijderd] 6 september 2023 10:33
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    Fred 61 schreef op 6 september 2023 10:15:

    Als deze ETF's goedgekeurd worden wordt er dan niet veel
    handel weggehaald bij de huidige crypto handelsplatformen?
    Als ik een verdeling zou moeten maken is het straks de ETF voor de FOMO-"investeerders", handelsplatformen voor korte termijn gokkers.
    Ik verwacht wel degelijk een positief effect van ETF goedkeuring, afkeuring zou het einde wel eens nabij kunnen brengen. Tenslotte wordt er nog steeds maar weinig nuttig gebruik gemaakt van deze energie-verslindende hobby.
  3. [verwijderd] 6 september 2023 10:55
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    Fred 61 schreef op 6 september 2023 10:44:

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    Dat veranderd toch niet met de komst van een ETF
    Misschien leg ik niet goed uit wat ik bedoel:
    - het staat buiten kijf dat het energie-verslindend is
    - het staat buiten kijf dat er geen/ nauwelijks nuttige toepassing is
    - als ETFs worden toegestaan zal er meer toestroom van kapitaal zijn vanuit institutionele kant; het zal als een soort van "legalisering van energiemisbruik" gezien worden
    - als ETFs niet toegestaan worden, dan blijft het voornamelijk voor de korte termijn gokkers (en natuurlijk de wales die de buit eigenlijk al binnen hebben)
  4. forum rang 7 Fred 62 7 september 2023 23:33
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    Zaphod Beeblebrox schreef op 7 september 2023 21:13:

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  5. forum rang 6 Zaphod Beeblebrox 8 september 2023 07:23
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    Zaphod Beeblebrox schreef op 8 september 2023 07:03:

    [Modbreak IEX: Gelieve te stoppen met het plaatsen van stroman argumenten en elkaar persoonlijk aan te vallen, bericht is verwijderd.]
    Zullen we daar maar van maken: gelieve te stoppen met het plaatsen van berichten.
    De persoonlijke aanvallen komen namelijk uit een andere hoek.
    Maar goed, als het dit is wat IEX wil, mij best hoor.
  6. [verwijderd] 8 september 2023 10:18
    Riot Showcases Demand Response Strategy: Bitcoin Mining's Role in Strengthening Texas Energy Grid
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    Bitcoin mining aided the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, or ERCOT, when the bitcoin mining company Riot Platforms reduced its power usage amid a Texas summer heatwave. Riot said in its most recent production and operations update that it received $31.7 million in power and demand response credits for August.

    Bitcoin Mining’s Win-Win: Riot Cuts Power, Boosts Texas Energy Stability
    Politicians skeptical of bitcoin, like the Massachusetts Democrat Elizabeth Warren, might want to familiarize themselves with demand response systems and how bitcoin mining can enhance the efficiency of energy grids. Simply put, demand response is a tactic used in electricity grids that encourages users to decrease or adjust their power use during peak times in response to time-based rates or other financial incentives.

    While it can be cost-efficient, only a handful of business operations can effectively implement significant demand response systems, and crypto mining might be the most optimal at shedding load. In a press release dated September 6, bitcoin mining company Riot Platforms reported it reduced its power use by 95% during peak electricity demand last month amid one of the summer’s harshest heatwaves. As a result, Riot received $31.7 million in power and demand response credits.

    “August was a landmark month for Riot in showcasing the benefits of our unique power strategy,” the CEO of Riot, Jason Les said. “Riot achieved a new monthly record for power and demand response credits, totaling $31.7 million in August, which surpassed the total amount of all credits received in 2022.”

    Riot’s CEO said that based on the average bitcoin price in August, the power and demand response credits they received were equivalent to about 1,136 BTC. He further noted that the credits substantially reduced Riot’s cost to mine bitcoin. Demand response systems have gained traction in the bitcoin mining industry. Last year, mining company Lancium collaborated with a Texas battery-storage provider. When power is curtailed, Lancium’s fleet can keep mining without diminishing its computational power.

    In February 2021, Texas experienced blackouts due to a severe winter storm, prompting bitcoin miners to reduce their power to assist ERCOT. A similar situation occurred in February 2022 when operations using demand response systems dialed back power in anticipation of winter storms. Major energy grid operators are keenly interested in bitcoin mining in conjunction with demand response systems.

    Given the unique challenges ERCOT has faced in recent years, demand response has become integral to its strategy for grid reliability. In July 2022, an analyst from Duke Energy, the second-largest U.S. energy company, mentioned that his company was exploring demand response systems and had teamed up with selected bitcoin miners for trials.
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  7. [verwijderd] 8 september 2023 10:23
    Is Bitcoin echt zo'n energieverslinder en vervuiler? Of valt dat misschien best mee?

    advisory.kpmg.us/content/dam/advisory...
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    twitter.com/VentureCoinist/status/167...

    Daar hoor ik niemand over, van het schijnbaar zo klimaatbewuste anti-bitcoin legertje op dit forum waarvan leden zelf notabene in aandelen als Shell en KLM-Air France zitten ... LOL
  8. forum rang 7 Fred 62 8 september 2023 10:36
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    Enzo123 schreef op 8 september 2023 10:23:

    Is Bitcoin echt zo'n energieverslinder en vervuiler? Of valt dat misschien best mee?

    advisory.kpmg.us/content/dam/advisory...
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    twitter.com/VentureCoinist/status/167...

    Daar hoor ik niemand over, van het schijnbaar zo klimaatbewuste anti-bitcoin legertje op dit forum waarvan leden zelf notabene in aandelen als Shell en KLM-Air France zitten ... LOL
    Geen positie Shell en positie short KLM
  9. forum rang 7 Fred 62 8 september 2023 10:43
    quote:

    Enzo123 schreef op 8 september 2023 10:23:

    Is Bitcoin echt zo'n energieverslinder en vervuiler? Of valt dat misschien best mee?

    advisory.kpmg.us/content/dam/advisory...
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    twitter.com/VentureCoinist/status/167...

    Daar hoor ik niemand over, van het schijnbaar zo klimaatbewuste anti-bitcoin legertje op dit forum waarvan leden zelf notabene in aandelen als Shell en KLM-Air France zitten ... LOL
    Misschien zal het niet zoveel kosten als eerder gedacht.
    Maar als ik een windmolen neerzet om water naar zee
    te pompen is dat nog steeds verspilling.
    Zouden we met ze allen bitcoin als betaalmiddel gebruiken
    wordt dat misschien een ander verhaal.

    Mvg
  10. [verwijderd] 8 september 2023 11:00
    quote:

    Fred 61 schreef op 8 september 2023 10:36:

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    Geen positie Shell en positie short KLM
    Ik heb je niet zo lang geleden iets anders horen beweren Fred... over Shell aandelen. Maar misschien heb je ze verkocht intussen. Kan. Neemt niet weg dat je bewust voor 1 van de werelds grootste klimaatverziekers hebt gekozen om geld te verdienen. Maakt niet uit, eigen keus, maar m.i. heb je dan geen recht van spreken over dit onderwerp.
  11. forum rang 7 Fred 62 8 september 2023 11:39
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    Enzo123 schreef op 8 september 2023 11:00:

    [...]
    Ik heb je niet zo lang geleden iets anders horen beweren Fred... over Shell aandelen. Maar misschien heb je ze verkocht intussen. Kan. Neemt niet weg dat je bewust voor 1 van de werelds grootste klimaatverziekers hebt gekozen om geld te verdienen. Maakt niet uit, eigen keus, maar m.i. heb je dan geen recht van spreken over dit onderwerp.
    Ja Shell inderdaad verkocht.
    En waarom zou ik geen recht hebben op
    dit onderwerp? ik rij auto , ik stook en zet de
    airco aan vandaag als het te warm wordt.
    Dus ja ik ben een vervuiler dat kan ik niet
    ontkennen maar dat ik dan geen recht van
    spreken heb is onzin.
    Jij mag wel een mening hebben maar jij stookt
    ook en rijd waarschijnlijk ook auto en eet producten
    die geproduceerd zijn met behulp van energie.

    En jij hebt wel recht op die mening?
    Beetje krom Enzo123 , ik heb er alle begrip voor
    dat je bitcoin of crypto's in het algemeen wil
    verdedigen dat recht heb je.
    En ik heb het recht om daar wat van te vinden.

    Mvg

    Fred61
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